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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:31:23 -
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Stitcher wrote:Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:Pieter, the State did nothing; if I had to pick a place to live beyond the Republic, I would choose to live there. I have nothing but respect for your people, and nation, even if I question the wisdom of your choices in allies. I question our choice in allies too. So, I think, do many. But the State likes to believe itself to be founded on pragmatism, and so pursues the trading partner who can make us the richest. Of course, that claim is demonstrated as being clearly false by the fact that said partner would actually be the Federation. ( cue outraged wailing and accusations of treason). It's further falsified by the fact that development, infrastructure and security contracts with the Tribes could be very lucrative for us, probably more so than importing bulk Amarrian food and exporting Caldari industrial products. The fact that no such arrangements exist implies to me that the Empire is bribing us. Which really, I'm okay with. It'd be nice and refreshing if we just openly acknowledged that our affections are purely mercenary and got on with the business of negotiating a better deal. Hakatain, where have you been hiding? I was just thinking to myself the other day how much I miss your input.
=== Unfortunately, I agree that the Federation would be the best trading partner, and despite our vast differences, I actually think we would be most compatible with them in general. It should, of course be pointed out that most of the extranational corporations with the biggest influence on the State are Gallente ones. I do suppose it makes some sort of sense, though our methods are different the system of Corporations in general was introduced to us by the Gallente, and we do have a shared history with them we don't with the Minmatar of Amarr.
Ironically, the Amarr whom we are now allies with were one of the big reasons the State and the Federation sought peace between themselves because we wanted to be able to counteract any of their expansionist policies. Still the reason the State and Federation aren't allies is the couple pf sticking points that have been there since we originally seceded, the main one being home. Even if that is resolved, though, I think the proxy wars under the CEWPA will prevent any attempts at forming alliances. I fear the economic impact in the short term may be too lucrative for some of the parties involved to see the long term benefits of peace.
As for the Republic, that is pure pragmatism. They have long been associated with the Federation, so when the CEWPA was signed, those two linked up, and the Republic and the State allying after that would represent a conflict of interest. As the Jove don't involve themselves with us directly, that only left us the option of standing alone or pairing up with the Amarr.
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Verin, you need to come out of that hole and take a look around a bit more. People like me are no longer even slightly outraged at working with the Federation, since the major sticking point against it was removed.
And I've been brutally honest about why I'm okay with working for Her Imperial Majesty. I should note the main sticking point isn't ENTIRELY removed quite yet. While I will agree the situation is much improved, and I don't think that specifically would interfere with attempts at cooperation, much work remains to be done. Again, though, this business in Black Rise and Placid are highly disruptive.
Stitcher wrote:People like you, little brother, are in the minority.
You're a capsuleer, remember. By definition, you've already chosen to step outside the mainstream of Caldari thought and behaviour. Any statements made by any of us on the thrust of general Caldari opinion must be considered as very well-informed speculation at best. Indeed. As much as we may still attempt to serve the State; we are very much outsiders now. I know my own parent corporation, Ishukone, as well as the Watch only trust me slightly more than the average capsuleer despite my history with them, and much of my relationship with the Navy has had to be rebuilt since I graduated from the State War Academy. |